Fear & Hunger

I bought this game about a month ago and i didn't get any steam key for it,is there anything i need to do like sending email or something to get a steam key? thank you ^^

I'd like to know if steam version has any kind of censorship before buying, please

So, I haven't gotten very far into this game yet, only played for a few hours or so, so this are mostly my first impressions of the game. Though, first impressions are really important, because thats where you either get me hooked, or make me uninstall. That's where you have the chance to make me interested in the story, or completely bored, or incredibly frustrated. And I'm not going to continue playing a game that's made me frustrated, when I have other games that don't and are much more fun.

The art is amazing, the story and the world is really intruiging, and it's fun to return to a game so ruthless. I love the management of health, food and stress, though the later two might drain a bit too fast. I also love how extremely fucked up the game is, with the fact that your character can literally be raped if one of the guards kill you, leaving you to crawl around bleeding out of your anus till you die. That's disgustingly awesome, in a really fucked up way. I like the fact that the different characters feel relatively balanced. Magic is not too op since a lot of magic costs your mental strenght, which really punishes you for spamming it, and the non-magic people have talents that do genuinly feel useful in one way or another.

I really like the fact that a lot of basic supplies are so rare. From medicine, to healing items and so forth, it all being rare makes it really rewarding when you stumble upon some in some random box. And you play really carefully to avoid being infected, starting to bleed or whatever else, as you don't want to lose those precious resources.

The feel of the game is amazing. The moment you first step into the dungeon, fleeing from the barking dogs filled me with so many emotions. Fear, intruige, desperation and such. I loved exploring that first area, reading a few books on the backstory, finding the sobbing girl and growing in anticipation of how I would be able to release her, and, of course, being in pure god damn horror at the guards you first meet. Their design, while simple, is just to god damn disturbing, and it immediately tells you what kind of feel this game will have. The fact that the game is also seemingly randomly generated, at least to an extent, is also really nice. It keeps you from feeling safe, and like you can never know exactly everything this game has in store for you.

However, one thing that I do think is bullshit is that you can't see what a spell does before you buy it. The souls you use to buy spells are rare and not even guarenteed to drop every run. So the fact that you don't even know what they do until you pick them can make you feel really cheated, because if you pick something that really doens't help you, there was nothing you could've done to know that that was the wrong choice.

Another thing, I really do dislike that so much information about basic game mechanics are hidden. For example, there are some alchemy books you can find that teach you what the different colours of potions do, which is cool. The problem is that they're random drops, which can really fuck you over in some cases. And I haven't yet found a single thing telling me properly how combat works. I get it that it's kinda the point to not be hand-held, but you can go too far.

For example, your chance to miss. I have no idea what influences your chance to miss or hit. Your class doesn't seem to influence it much by what I've noticed, nor do the weapons have any 'hit' or 'accuracy' stat. It's possible that your phobias can potentially influence it, which in that case is actuall bullshit. Since you have no way to influence your phobia, as far as I know, if you start the game with a phobia for deformations or monstroseties, you might as well start over, because half the enemies in the game seem to fall under this category. If not, well that's still shitty. Not being able to influence your chararacters capability in combat to hit at all feels really weird in an rpg, and all around shitty, as when I miss, I don't feel like it's my fault for using the wrong weapon or something, just random luck.

Also, the system with how you can target different body parts seems like it's deeper than it really is. From what I've noticed from testing out a bunch of stuff, the best method really is to just cut off the hand that holds the weapon, then their head. Doing anything else doesn't seem to be as useful in any major way.

To be fair, a lot of this stuff is intuitive and you can figure a lot of it out, but still, it would be nice to have confirmation.

The only thing I've found to tell me about a combat mechanic is a wounded soldier down n a cellar, or whatever it is, who tells you that you should guard when you see an attack incomming. This is kind of dumb though, because he's hidden really deep into an area filled with tentacle fuckers that will mess you up on a low-level character. As far as I can tell, this kinda works. It reduces the dmg the guarding character takes from all attacks, which is neat, but also kind of useless, to be honest, in a game where you have to attack to actually finish the fight. As far as I can tell, there are no enemies who have 'prepare yourself' type of attacks, where they give a warning the first turn, then unleash a devestating attack the next turn. 

It's also seemingly useless against my absolute fucking *BIGGEST* problem with this game, and why I just can not recomend it, and why I regret buying this game

The fucking instant death mechanics, jesus god damn christ.

The fact that the very first enemy of the game has an instant death mechanic on a coin-flip is just pure cancer, I'm sorry to say. It's not *Fun* to have your max hp character just instantly died just because he missed his attack, and then a coin-flip, nor does it feel fair. I don't feel like there was anything I did wrong, and if there was, then I don't know what I did do wrong. If you can influence how much your character misses or hits his attacks, I have no clue. I've played this game for hours and I haven't found a single note, book or anything really detailing how combat works. I did talk to that one injured guy in the dungeon who told be to guard. So I did try that against one of the guard enemies. And, I still died. I tried it one more, and I still died, through my guard, so I'll assume that doesn't help.

And the fact that so much of the game is just decided by coin-flips makes a game otherwise based on intelligence and rational thinking feel like gambling. Comparing it to dungeons and dragons, there are a lot of similiar luck based mechanics. The difference is that 1, you can influence these luck based mechanics by adding modifiers and such and, 2, almost none of them result in an instant game over. The people who designed Dungeons and Dragons realized that putting an instant death mechanic on something based on luck is not good game design.

*AND*, and this is important, if there was something I could've done to avoid those instant death mechanics, then you did not communicate it properly. Remember, games are a two-way street. I will try to understand your games and all it's mechanics and such, but you also have to actually give me ways to understand your game.

Another example of this problem is the god damn tentacle things, that somehow just teleports you to a dungeon where a witch then one-shots you with a fireball, as far as I can tell. The first time this happend, I didn't even realize the tentacle thing did it, I thought it happened because I walked across the pentagram on the ground, because why would a tentacle thingy be able to do that and, more importantly, why would this game, based upon being smart, punish you for trying to avoid a fight?

Like, those tentacle fuckers are though, they deal a lot of damage, but they're slow. So my gamer insinct is to run past them, as I'm pretty sure most people's instinct is. But no,  that's wrong. Not because anything in their design says it is, not because anything hinted that that would happen, but beacuse the game designer randomly decided that to be the case.

Now the thing is, all this *COULD* be fine if one single thing was true: 

If saves were plentiful. They're not. The only ways I've found so far is either by those books that allow you 1 free save, then turn to dust, which are random drops as far as I can tell, and can not be relied upon. The other one is the bed by the crow statue that's, guess what, behind a instant death mechanic on a fucking coin-flip. This one especially gets me because the game implies that the room is at least somewhat safe. There was nothing about the statue that implied danger of any sort. Hell, I thougt the implication was that the crow statue was watching over to make sure I WASN'T harmed. Then, I see that fucking screen that says 'heads or tails' and I just wanted to rage-quit right then and there because why dude, just fucking why. I failed, got jumped by the crow monster and one-shot. There was 1 full hour of my life on that character, just wasted because of a coin-flip.

If you're going to put a game based so much on trial and error also on luck that the player can't really influence, then you can't make saves so fucking hard to get. I'm not going to waste 1 hour of my time carefully navigating the levels just to get oneshot in the prison-dungeon because I missed 1 attack on the half a dozen god damn guards, if I also have to start over again, from the very fucking beginning of the character creation meny, having to watch your unskipable game intros and the music during your log that becomes ear-screeching after you hear it half a dozen times.

Now, there's an example of all of this done right in your game. The guy who sells the potions outside the prison. The potions he sells you are all harmful, but it's fine, because 1, the whole situation is really shady, the item description says that it's suspicious, it's not based on luck, and 2, if you do fuck up and drink it, you're not immediately dead, you have a chance to remedy your situation. And, more importantly...

YOU CAN IMPROVE FOR NEXT TIME. Now you know not to drink that potion, your next playthrough will go better because of this knowledge. I died becaue I drank the potion of full-healing at low health once, because I was that desperate. But that was fine, because I had learned something. I wasn't angry.

But what do I learn from dying to the first enemies instant death mechanic for the 20'th time just because I missed my one attack? Nothing. All I learned from that death is that I don't like this game very much, and that I regret buying it. I didn't feel punished for making a mistake, I felt cheated by a god damn coin-flip.

right now, this game is a 3/10 for me. There is genuine potential with the story, the art and the hunger and stress management. However, the game is just too full of these instant death mechanics, if you couldn't tell, that just ruins it for me. I want a game where my own skill rewards and punishes me. If you are able to push through dozens upon dozens of dumb deaths for a decently interesting story, then go ahead. But honestly, I'd recomend just watching a let's play instead.

Hello there! I found out about this game through John Wolfe's video, and I was so intrigued by it that I started watching the playthroughs of RiskRim and Neco. Even though I don't have a good enough pc (or time) to play this game, I just wanted to say that I find it truly amazing, and the amount of lore, details and possibilities is simply astonishing. Awesome work!

With that being said, I was wondering; are you guys at all in need of a proofreader of some kind, someone to help you out with some bits of the writing?

Can anybody explain why my game keeps crashing on random moments? Mostly right after a fight.

really beautiful art and game, im a rpg maker game developer too and i find really interesting the player battlers bellow the enemy, how did you get this? 

When playing this game again, I found a bug at 23:30 that I wanted to bring to Orange~'s attention. When I ran away from the Hydra, the beast was open and dead like I had fought it, even though I simply fled. The hydra should still be actively writhing since I didn't engage it in combat whatsoever.

Still really loving the game and hope some bug patches come out soon, it'll be great to play this more and see what's really hidden all here!

Not sure if I've posted before but I'm loving this game; purchased it after watching Neco the Sergal's playthrough. 

Haven't really found any bugs worth mentioning, just want to give Orange thanks and Sergal a shout out!

Also the coin flip is bane of my existence, this game needs a detail walk-through on how to find stuff (like a way to fix a broken bone and reattach limbs ) and a way to have more than manage your party (so I can collect those arms while my party is full).

Thank you :)    

hey there, i've been absolutely entranced by the game, been playing and replaying it for days now! what a unique mix of unforgiving gameplay , INCREDIBLE atmosphere and wonderful art. To think this was made by a single person in a couple of years humbles me greatly as a developer.

i found something that i find a bit weird tho, and i wanted to ask about it

SPOILERS, i suppose

in Ragnvaldr 's part of the dream in the tower of endless there's a clear path you can follow to his cottage, but if you stray from that and go around the forest you can circumvent the trees and reach the edges of the map, i found  weird stuff there like a row of three bear traps and a group of guards and priests waiting idly and even a marriage humping the air XD  is this supposed to happen? seems more like  an unfinished area than some kind of an easter egg or something !

Theres this really annoying and persitant bug I found. When ever I enter Ma'habre - The Tower of Endless, the screen goes completely black. I can still acess  my inventory and and walk around but even if I leave the area the screen is still black. I tried this 4 times in a row and really dont care to see if it will keep happening, and the last one I lost some really good loot, this bug is kind of a progression killer.

HELP! the lever to make elevator appear is nowhere to be found in the level 3 prison area! this has happened 3 times already, I see no way to make the elevator appear! is this a bug?

Does anyone know how to fix the mac problem of not letting the game have save files?

This game caught my eye because of its gory yet dreamy art style, and after playing it, I freaking love it! The mysterious and gross world, macabre story and god lore, and trial-and-error gameplay is very interesting and makes me want to NOT die at every new experience so I can play the game most properly. I like that there are options for dialogue in addition to combat, and want to experiment with that in the future. I've only played enough for one episode so far, but will definitely be doing more! Thanks for making this game Orange~!

Hey there, loving the game so far; purchased it after watching Neco the Sergal's playthrough, got it on Steam!

Found a bug in the Ancient City, if you stand in this exact spot and keep looking, you can get an infinite supply of stones. 

https://imgur.com/a/WP82Xml

Cheers,

Noticed a bug. When cooking Salmonsnake meat, nothing is produced but the item is still taken from your inventory. Would also like to say, this is a really great and creative game, home to see more work like this!

Hello Orange

hope u read my comment i realy liked ur game ever since u releaced its full version (The selfish guy on youtube if u remember me)

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u can consider them ideas for new content

i am intresred in pocketcat hiden secrets and the fact that we little know about the god he serves as well the moon god which him self too is selfish to share his valueble knowlege , one that can cause problem for the new gods 

how about playing the poketcat maybe and knowing more and more about him cuz (maybe he knows something about the moon god :D

) idk u might be having some future plans ready for him cuz the info about him is mostly nothing tbh

thats all good luck man u have one hell of an imagination.

Hey, I noticed in your credits that you got a bunch of sounds and stuff from freesound, so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't know any better, especially since I like this game so much and you don't seem to be scummy at all.

The jingle that plays when you sit on the throne is a straight-up ripoff of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time's chest opening jingle. Nintendo is notoriously strict with their copyright and I'd hate to see you get into legal trouble for selling a game with stolen music.

Cheers.

I don't know if this is a bug or some "feature" but I cant select anything from my menu anymore after resting in the bed next to the large broken statue with the crow.

Edit: So after reloading my saves several times and going through different saves, the problem persisted in the other 2 save files, though these saves were relatively close to one another in time and the same save point. Was only able to select my inventory again until about the 4th reload of the save file where this originally happened, and nothing different happen within the file, and the problem is not longer appearing in the other save files where it was also present at the time of checking, this definitely seems like a bug.  

Hey the mac version of the game still is unable to save, and also there is glitch where you are forever having the uteus enemies baby knaw at your feet, it a broken loop. feel mac really needs to be able to save, you get the save screen but are unable to pick a file to save to.

What kinds of questions can you ask the New Gods? How do you have to parse it so you don't get the "we don't understand" response?

I see the blackout fix in latest patch notes, but the problem still persists on mac. When I enter the tower the screen goes black and stays that way until restart. Same happens randomly when changing between locations close to the tower. It happened to me few times already and I've wasted a couple of hours without any progress because of it. It's basically a game breaking bug, hope it get's addressed quick. I enjoy this game too much to stop now. Cheers.

Hi there Orange,

      Huge fan of this game. I think it brings dungeon crawlers and mature content together into something epic. I consider this game a near mixture of Silent Hill + Resident Evil + (insert any dungeon crawler). I just downloaded the newest version and decided I would restart upon watching a Neco video and finding out an alternative method to applying primary and secondary pain to someone in my party. My sentient point however is my one complaint about this game. I would bet that I am not the only one to complain about this...

"The Coin Flip Mechanic" (CFM)

     I think this element makes or breaks it for some players. Multiple times I've had to restart because I will lose a coin flip and feel the element of being a "smart RPG" player is null and void. Players chances of defeating a "New God" are dictated by guessing heads or tails. This essentially takes away from the challenging aspect this game offers by implementing a "luck" based CFM which can, in my opinion, make or break Fear & Hunger for all kinds of players. However, this is my one soul complaint about this game and I will continue to play it either way. However, I would like to make a suggestion because overall I am a fan of this game and would be happy to see it only grow and succeed.

What if enemies dropped scrolls and books? Dare say, add an enemy or even a level boss. Maybe something like "You have defeated The Cannibal" then you search him and find "Scroll of the Wildman". Or by defeating a Yellow Mage, you have a 50/50 chance to receive say "Empty Scroll" or some sort of magic addition. With a probability of receiving more lucrative "drops" from defeated enemies, I think you could even keep the CFM. 

As I said, I am a big fan and only hope to see Fear & Hunger grow, just offering an honest review and suggestion. 

Thank you!

Hey there orange, I really love this game! Been watching John Wolfe for years and yours was the first game that made me want to buy and play! That said, I'm coming across an issue I see other people are having also, with the save function not working on the mac. Is it possible to get a steam key from you to try and see if that fixes it? New to itchio so not sure what the best way of contacting you is! Thanks so much for all your hard work, I hope I can invest more time in it soon.

I can't tell if it's a bug or not but every now and then I can only attack one body part until it disappears and it gets really frustrating during boss fights where I NEED to attack the arms and legs and it targets the main body which has several times as much health.

Like no matter how much I move the selector it always stays on a certain body part

I remember it being mentioned that we can grow limbs back now. Any hints how to do that and figure that out? Does it also include growing back legs? Cos I jumped into a hole and broke my legs cos my curiosity got the better of me.

I jumped into the toilet hole... Please tell me it's not how it looks like...

Yo,

Sorry for bothering you again but here is this really nasty bug which happens in the ancient city (City after the Catacombs).

When I walk to the big door that is behind the statue and then go all  the way to the right, into that one room and back outside again, I get a black screen. 

I still hear the foot steps, the music is still playing and the letters in the left upper corner even tell you in which area you are but there is a black screen.

No matter in which direction I leave that room I always get a black screen.

I looove this game. Saw it on John Wolfe's first look - announced I'd buy it - I always keep my promises ;> I think it's amazing (absolutely so) that all of this was done on RPGmaker too!! I forgot to mention that in my comment. The art, the randomization, all of it. Awesome job. Can't wait for all the bugs to be smoothed out as well, haha.